In June last year, the Taliban published the English text of an interview with Abdul Ghani, a.k.a. mullah Beradar (alternative spelling: Baradar, Biradar, Birader, Berader, Broadar etc.) I have corrected some interpunction mistakes and put non-English words and texts from the Qur’an in italics. Otherwise, the text is as published on ‘The Voice of Jihad’ (www.alemarah.info).
Text of interview of the esteemed Mullah Beradar Akhund, Deputy Ameerul Mo’mineen of The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan With the “SARK” magazine.
The endless sacrifices of our Muslim nation compelled the arrogant invaders to accept the bitter realities on ground.
Had we opted to burn educational institutions in Afghanistan, you wouldn’t have seen 10 percent educational institutions left without having been demolished.
Question: US Special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan , Hellbrook, admitted last month that so far USA had not been able to sew discord and dissension among the ranks of Taliban. In the last eight years, what hidden hands have you noticed at Islamic Emirate’s Leadership level and in the ranks of Mujahideens and why USA is not successful to bring about ramification among different groups of Taliban and what is the secret behind it?
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the universe, and peace and blessings be upon the leader of the prophets and messengers, the commander of the Mujahideen ( Mohmmad- Peace Be Upon Him) and his family and whoever follow him and strives in his path until the doomsday. And afterwards:
Unbelieving nations and, in particular, the invading Americans are fanning internal rivalries. They are trying to play havoc to the Islamic brotherhood. They are consistently searching for avenues to jeopardise the unity among their ranks; chalks out new programmes and formulate new strategies and provide unconditional material support to achieve that end. This hatred and strategies filled with jealousy and malice are crystal clear but it is not only that you can see what they are doing? Allah subhanahu wata’ala in The Glorious Qur’an warned the Muslims 1400 ago about their enmity, conspiracies and their extreme malice in these words:Allaah subhan ahu wata’ ala says:
Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can (Baqara :217)
Allaah subhanahu wata’ala is instructing the Muslims how to counter all kinds of conspiracies of the enemies by showing the way, importance of singleness and unity. In the Holy Qur’an along with other decrees to abide by, Allah (SwT) gives command to Muslims to adhere to the rule of unity among themselves and completely avoid internal conflicts and disagreements whatsoever. Allah subhanahu wata’ala addresses this issue in the Holy Qur’an in such words:
And obey Allah and His Messenger and do not quarrel, for then you will be weak in hearts and your power will depart, and be patient; surely Allah is with the patient (Al-Anfal :46)
Leaders of Islamic Emirate and all the Mujahideens consider this point to be of paramount value; and they try their level best to be the living example of the words of the command of Allah subhanahu wata’ala . All Praises be to Allah! We can clearly see this obedience in the ranks of Mujahideens of the Islamic Emirate. You can clearly see this chain of command and it is quiet visible.
That is why when you look at the history of Islamic Ummah especially in the Battle of Ahzab [Forces of confederates] or Battle of Trench, we see such examples. since then there is no such example in the history when a great confederates [Disbelieving Forces] allied against a single Muslim nation like it is now seen in Afghanistan . A weak state already eroded by a war of attrition is heroically standing up to the might and brutality of the nations of the evil. They joined hands and invaded but still that weak nation survived against them.
The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and its Muslim Nation, only because of the help of Allah Subhanahu wata’ala’s and because of blessings of unity, despite the passage of eigh year, have been still fighting against the disbelieving nations with patience, perseverance and with humbleness; They are gaining successes even in abnormal conditions,. They ( the Mujahideen) have mutual respect, honour and freedom; passing their nights and days in brotherhood and unity.
If we look at the political history of all the nations ousted by foreign invaders , we find that their structure and organization has been disintegrated after having been toppled. But it is the Islmic emirate of Afghanistan that it was able to keep its organizational set-up in tact and even it has strengthened more than before, despite being not at the saddle of power. The secret behind this extraordinary success is that the leadership and rank and files of the Islamic Emirate strictly follow the injunctions of the Almighty Allah ( SwT) concerning the unity and cohesion among themselves.
Question: In private meetings, the enemy admits that the previous year was unsuccessful year for foreign forces and the Kabul Administration in terms of capturing and eliminating the Talibans, so in current scenario Obama is sending more troops in Afghanistan, how do you look at this militarily?
Answer: We had always said that in Afghanistan foreign invasion will be met with stiff resistance through Jihad of the Muslim people of Afghanistan . This had fruitful results. Every single day brings more successes. That is with the passage of every day, Mujahideens are learning new tatics, improving our skills not only with the weaponry but in administrative areas ;gaining more experiences. At the battle front, valour against the enemy has its fruitful outcome.
Obama’s planning to send more troops to Afghanistan in itself proves that the current foreign forces are facing fiasco and has been defeated by the operations of the Mujahideens . They have lost the morale to fight. From the outset, the foreigners closed all channels of diplomacy. If additional forces come to Afghanistan will have same defeats, will lose their morales and will come under the attacks. Instead of winning the war, they will face humiliating defeats with the Grace of Allah subhanahu wata’ala.
Question: American politicians and Western experts admits this reality, that Talibans are much more popular as compared to the Karzai Administration and have popular support. But we do not see close relation an contact between the people and Talibn as it should have been in the light of the condition that we are passing through. In other word, the Taliban should have consulatation with the people and hear their grievances and advice. What do you say to your people about this vacuum?
Answer: The Jihad and resistance against Americans and all occupying forces emanates from the determination of the Mujahid nation. What we the Islamic Emirate has achieved against the Americans in reality is the result of the endless sacrifices of our proud people (The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan ) and their martyrdoms operations. We pay great respect to their timeless sacrifices rendered by this Muslim Nation. we are deeply indebted to them and their sacrifices in this Jihad and resistance. In reality the sacrifice, the love for martyrdom of our people is for the uplifting of the faith and religion. We are one nation and will remain one.
Our Muslim and Mujahid nation has rendered the tremensous sacrifice. Honestly speaking, we cant express the dimension of the respect, honour, excellence or the high place that they deserve. One can not utter that in words. It is not possible. If you want me to define Taliban and the nation, I can’t distinquish between them . They are one. There is no “ we” and the “ nation”. All are “ We”. .
And as for the fight against the disbelieving occupiers is concerned, our Jihad will continue until we ensure our freedom, authority and achieve Islamic Sovereignty. Our Mujahideens are sacrificing their lives for defending their Muslim nation.
The honour and respect of our Muslim nation, their aspirations are the priorities embedded in the strategy of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.
The Leader of the Islamic Emirate keep in touch with the people via religious scholars, elders and advisors and notables.
But due to the war, there were some grievances and shortcomings, not only among the people but among the ranks and files of Taliban, but with the help of Allah, (SwT) we will work together to resolve this issues. .
Question: sometimes, or should I say in the previous month there were some reports that Americans and their puppets in Kabul wanted to have talks with you, and the Americans and Kabul Administration have affirmed these reports but such reports are refuted by the Islamic Emirate. Are there talks going on currently? And if the reply is in negative then what is the motive behind the circulation of such false reports in the media and is there any possibility at all for dialogue in the future?
Answer: Due to the endless sacrifices of our Muslim nation, the ground realities have changed. But the arrogant and brutal occupying forces, are not ready to acknowledge them. They are not going to accept the bitter reality. The gains we have achieved is because of the Grace of Allah subhanahu wata’ala and the sacrifices of our Mujahid nation. The Holy Quran says:
And Allah only gave it as a good news and that your hearts might be at ease thereby; and victory is only from Allah; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise (Al-Anfal :10)
These arrogant occupation forces used to put hundreds of thousands of dollars head money on so many Mujahideens and use to discredit them, malign them; deprive them of the honour that Allah subhanahu wata’ala’s through his Mercy, has bestowed upon us.
But now due to the Blessings of Jihad and as you have said yourself, they send their words almost every month, trying to have dialogues and negotiations with us. They ask and send their requests, they are now preferring peaceful exit over confrontation.
As regarding the dialogues with Islamic Emirate is concerned, our stance regarding that and our conditions are well-known and it does not need further explanation or repetition over here.
These Americans invaders and their puppet institutions repeatedly propagate that we are open to dialogues and they are trying to convince the people that we are ready for solutions and dialogue but the Islamic Emirate prefers war rather than peace..
These barbaric and tyrant Americans are the most cunning and deceiving people on the face of the earth. Their all power and their forces available to annihilate the weak masses, they covetously carry out operations and are deceiving people in general.
They are even deceiving their own people. If they really preferred peace over war then why in the first place, they invaded Afghanistan? At that time we were keen to have solutions for the problems that we were facing and opened ourselves to all kind of diplomacy but they in their arrogance, didn’t pay attention and invaded us, putting all their weaponry by killing innocent Afghan nation, displaced them; tortured and captured them and were bragging about it. All the followers of the Cross gathered and allied and started their brutality on this defenceless Afghan nation. We Afghans are those who defeated Communists and we had respect and honour and did a great favour to all the nations of the world, by releasing them from the clutches of communism. but they killed our nation barbarically and gave us blood baths with our own blood and filled the prisons cells with our prisoners. So the Almighty Allah, who is always helper of the oppressed people, gave us victory. The enemy has launched the notion of negotiation for the achievement of their ultra motives through talks.
The Islamic Emirate at this critical juncture is fighting in the way of Allah and with Allah’s help, is victorious. Successes are on its way and they have a strong positive stance that if Americans really want to end this oppression and want to resolve the issue, then first they will have to abide by what we already told them, complete and un conditional withdrawal. and if they came to have dialogue and peace they have to sit to make an exit strategy and if they came with concealed motives and want to deceive, that is another matter. What keeps them back from talks?
The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan , while having a position of strength and success, calls on the invading Americans to leave our country. In the first place, they have not come to our country by our consultation and invitation , so their way is open to leave this country with their own discretion. Firstly, they should put an end to their illegitimate aggression, then the Islamic Emirate is ready to establish a truly representative Islamic Afghan administration based on the consent of our people, and will follow a policy of mutual respect and non-interference with all countries of the world.
Question: Americans came up with new strategy in order to succeed, involving China , India , Iran and Russia under the “contact group.”. They want all these countries participate in the problems of Afghanistan , how you perceive this step of the Americans?
Answer: As we have already mentioned that Americans are unable to stand up to the struggle of the Afghan people. They are now urging those countries who use to be their rivals militarily, politically and economically to come to Afghanistan for their help and support.
The American’s project of “contact group” will not have achievements for them. All these so called friends have their own vested interest and they look at things differently especially when Americans influence increases in terms of their forces, politically or economically. They disagree regarding American expansionism. Americans do understand this very well, but their fiasco in Afghanistan has brought them to a juncture where they have mingled fruitful and negative programmes and they are not able to distinguish between friend and enemy.
Question: In your last reign of government some policies and conduct of the Islamic Emirate personnel were based on emotions rather than pragmatism. Two important rule of the Islamic law i.e. action and suspension was not followed. The needs of the people were not taken care of . Does the Islamic Emirate have plans in the future to rectify or amend such policies and attitudes. How do you address the grievances of the people in future.?
Answer: You know war was imposed on us at different levels and directions by invisible hands.
The masses could not recognize it easily, but once the followers of the Cross invaded, all those hidden hands were visible and everybody involved accepted that they were interfering. What I mean to say is, due to wars you are unable to pay attention to so many important areas of national needs and the huge expenditure and burden of war fell on the economy, sagging its backbone. Secondly it diverted attention but despite that, as the war was being contained, life was coming to normalcy; we were gaining experience but I will say that at that time more attention was given on how to reunite the Afghans; how to begin life a new after the war of attrition; how to stop the influence of foreigners in our country; how to put on track the derailed system of governance, and prepare grounds for other services needed for nation building. Some mistake took place in the past. But the enemy through black propaganda exaggerates and repeats it over its media again and again, on regular basis. All those good and positive services that we had provided, no one talks about them. They are intentionally overlooked as if it never existed. .
Anyway, Islamic Emirate had had some weaknesses among its ranks and files. We don’t claim that they were innocent as angels. We are human beings and human life in its totality is a collection of experiences. We learn from the past experiences; will work on it and ask Allah subhanahu wata’ala for His help. we are striving to establish a true Islamic government for our suffering Muslim nation which will cater to all needs of the people, both spiritual and material .
We want to form a government which correspond with all the good criteria of governance. Serving the common people is the best job which the Almighty Allah bestows on his servants. We pray to the Almighty to accept us as the true servants of his creatures.
Question: Education and training is part of the religion and essential for human needs. There is allegation against the Islamic Emirate that it never paid serious attention to these areas. Kabul Administration says that women schools were burnt by Talibans, how much truth is in such allegations? Has the Islamic Emirate incorporated education as a priority into its policies and approaches?
Answer: The Islamic Emirates of Afghanistan gives special attention to education as our financial resources permit us. We have formed a commission of education in our organizational set-up. We are trying to serve our miserable people in the field of education. As far the arson of school are concerned it is the black propaganda of the enemy. They do not tire to malign us . However , the people of Afghanistan know the facts. Some time the enemy establishes outpost, military garrison in the building of schools. Even they establish district headquarters in schools, so when these schools-turned to- military installation are captured, then the enemy wrongly launch black propaganda that the Taliban set fire to schools. The people of the area where such events have taken place , are witness to their fabricated statements. They know the reality with their own eyes.
Question: Lately, it has come to notice that the leadership has made some important nomination, apoointment and transfer of its ranks and files. I want your view in this regards?
Answer: In Jihad, accountability, removal , transfer and nomination is the basic rule of command. Obedience of the command is also part and parcel of this system.
are ehat i and all that he says hat the leadership has made some important nomination, apoointment and transfer of its ranks aIslamic Emirate Higher leadership pays special attention to people’s daily affairs. Persons-in- command go through command briefings and shares field expertise. They share technical knowledge so they have to take steps accordingly. This is the reason that in the current year there has been a lot of reshuffling on many different battle zones.
These nominations and appointments take place on the basis of merit and piety, accountability and expertise. And at different territories, the way they carry out operations, and how they finalize it by using their own experiences of the terrain and skills and the way we have seen it with our own eyes. Promoting and demoting personnel’s on different administrative and military levels produce good results and it is very essential. Some time the needs arise to do so. If Allah subhanahu wata’la willing such changes will bring fruitful results in the field of Jihad.
Question: How do you evaluate the Sarak magazine in the work of dissemination of religious and national ideology and in the defence of these thoughts and what is your valuable views about this.?
Answer: more than a year ago, SARK journal, was the first in Afghan media to start its Jihadi and Da’wa mission.
Personnaly, I always looked forward to read something of this sort and whenever I came across it I read the article in depth.
At that time, a new journal “SARK ” appeared on the horizon of Afghanistan ’s printing media. Though many newspapers claimed to be free and independent, and having news coverage and took the credits for it but SARK is the first one that practically raised voice for freedom and liberation from the shackles of the enemy and made a spectacular debut in the print media. All members of SARK till now been honest to their journalistic ethics which is their national and Islamic duty and I pray to Allah Jalah Jalalahu to give you more successes.
Question: what is your message to the Afghan people?
Answer: my Message is that unless we free our nation from foreign yoke, thanks to our selfless sacrifices, we will not be able whisk away from the tentacles of these invaders. Our religion and our nation will be under consistent threat until we have our own self government without any foreign interference. So our first priority should be to unite our ranks for Jihad and to support the Mujahideens. We have to help them, we have to be with them in their ranks. The , disbelievers are not only enemies of Taliban and religious scholars or Mujahideen but they are enemies of Islam and the Muslims in general . They have invaded our lands. We should all stand against them together and fight them and understand this reality until you unsheathe your swords and make the enemy flee from our beloved land, till then we can not say that we have freed our nation.
If the enemy wanted to leaves this territory without war then why it invaded us in the first place? So I ask all the Muslims to pay special attention to this important point. The enemy is full of cunningness and deceiption. What they say that we are your friends, what they say through their mouths practically they don’t abide by it. What they conceal in their breast is totally different and it has hidden objectives but we know the reality and we know the way to success and that is the honourable way of Jihad.
The USA hasn t been able to launch the seeds of discord among Thaliban. This fact doesn t show the weakeness of the invaders, it symbolizes the power of Muslim Nations, that blessed by Allah, the Master of the Universe, are ready to fight against all the enemies.